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Narrator David Sadzin on NOT LIGHT, BUT FIRE

In this video, narrator David Sadzin shares why he found Matthew R. Kay's book about his experiences discussing race in the classroom, NOT LIGHT, BUT FIRE, illuminating—and why anyone who's interested in pursuing conversations about race with coworkers, family, or friends can benefit from listening. 

"Even if you don't work in education specifically, I think there's a lot of wisdom here, and there's a lot you can get out of this book."—Narrator David Sadzin

NOT LIGHT, BUT FIRE: How to Lead Meaningful Race Conversations in the Classroom
by Matthew R. Kay, read by David Sadzin
Tantor Media
AudioFile Earphones Award

David Sadzin's narration engages listeners beyond the target audience. The title comes from Frederick Douglass's call to action, placed in the context of classroom learning. Students are too often given "light"—the "February soup" of Black History Month's disconnected facts. Sadzin makes the case for "fire"—thoughtful learning environments that involve real student engagement. Sadzin's delivery is consistently focused, creating a rich learning environment that makes this listening experience vital. 


Find more audiobooks narrated by David Sazdin in his audiography.

David Sadzin photo by MG Vander Elst.

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